Terminal Option Settings for SOT Devices

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   My issue is that I am getting huge courtyard settings on all my SOT devices. I thought I had something set wrong. I looked at the terminal settings for "Gullwing, SOT" and they are set as I want them (screenshot below). Then I really looked at the individual setting for one of the devices. That is when I noticed that the Terminal Density is being pulled from "Outward L Lead...". 
So which setting should this be pulling from "Gullwing, SOT" or "Outward L Lead..."? 

I thought these SOT's settings were split off long ago due to SOT packages often being quite small, but other "Outwards L" devices often be quite large. As a result it was way to hard to find common ground that would work for both very small and very large devices.

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caclark Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Advanced User Joined: 24 Oct 2012 Location: Cincinnati, OH Status: Offline Points: 177	Post Options Post Reply Quote caclark Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Terminal Option Settings for SOT Devices Posted: 06 Jun 2022 at 11:51am
	My issue is that I am getting huge courtyard settings on all my SOT devices. I thought I had something set wrong. I looked at the terminal settings for "Gullwing, SOT" and they are set as I want them (screenshot below). Then I really looked at the individual setting for one of the devices. That is when I noticed that the Terminal Density is being pulled from "Outward L Lead...". So which setting should this be pulling from "Gullwing, SOT" or "Outward L Lead..."? I thought these SOT's settings were split off long ago due to SOT packages often being quite small, but other "Outwards L" devices often be quite large. As a result it was way to hard to find common ground that would work for both very small and very large devices.



Tom H Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 05 Jan 2012 Location: San Diego, CA Status: Offline Points: 5719	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tom H Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Jun 2022 at 12:03pm
	You should update to V2022.08. Can you share your Option .opt file and your FPX file so we can reproduce? We tried to duplicate this issue using your screenshot but cannot reproduce. Thanks
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caclark Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Advanced User Joined: 24 Oct 2012 Location: Cincinnati, OH Status: Offline Points: 177	Post Options Post Reply Quote caclark Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Jun 2022 at 12:56pm
	Please see attached zip file uploads/1152/PCB_Lib_requested_files.zip

caclark Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Advanced User Joined: 24 Oct 2012 Location: Cincinnati, OH Status: Offline Points: 177	Post Options Post Reply Quote caclark Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Jun 2022 at 12:58pm
	Sorry, forgot to add this to the above. I tried it in both -07 and -08. Just so happens I captured the screen from -07

Tom H Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 05 Jan 2012 Location: San Diego, CA Status: Offline Points: 5719	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tom H Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Jun 2022 at 2:12pm
	The issue is that the terminal lead on some gull wing type packages comes straight out of the side and straight down or the terminal is bent inwards. Terminals the go straight down or bend inwards are defined as "Outward L Lead" and only affect SOP, SOD and SOT packages. Go to "Tools > Options > Terminals > Surface Mount > Outward L Lead" and change all the courtyard excess values there and it will fix the problem. Here is what an Outward L Lead package looks like:
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caclark Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Advanced User Joined: 24 Oct 2012 Location: Cincinnati, OH Status: Offline Points: 177	Post Options Post Reply Quote caclark Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jun 2022 at 3:39am
	So then why is there a terminal group for "Gullwing SOT"? I often have the exact same device from several vendors, yes some have the leads defined to go inwards or straight down. Then others have the true "GullWing" shape to the leads. Often the only variable is the lead thickness which then determines if there is room to "Gullwing" the leads or allowes them to go straight down. I personally would rather have them defined seperatly. Some of those SOP packages are huge compared to the size of most SOT packages, though they share pitch spacing. Comes down to having to choose between the needs of the small SOT package courtyard spacing or their often times much larger brother courtyard spacing, as they are often more likely in need of re-work/touchup.

Tom H Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 05 Jan 2012 Location: San Diego, CA Status: Offline Points: 5719	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tom H Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jun 2022 at 8:22am
	The industry produces microminiature SOP packages mow. Most of them are big. The Outward L Lead has a small Heel and the Gullwing has a large Heel. Here is a normal Gullwing SOT:
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