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   I am happy to hear progress is being made on your end.  Still no date to offer?  

Is there a published list of the 5000 introductory parts?  If not, why?

We have a contract stuck in a holding pattern until a few specific parts can be found/built, most notably case 987-03 (112 pin LQFP 20x20x0.65).  If I knew this part was on your list of 5000, or coming very shortly (actual date), I would happily move ahead with your tools.  Otherwise the search continues.

I was unable to successfully create this part using your "lite" version.  The moment I enter extent dimensions 22x22 the tool lists 88 pin count and nothing I can find seems to allow me to create the full 112 pin footprint.  I concluded that this is either a limitation of the lite version or requires changes to the preference files which are not editable in the lite version.  The help/videos seem to focus more on special cases than on daily library tasks.  We do not have the luxury of hiring a full time librarian, so parts are a real time sink for us.

I am reluctant to make "yet another investment in new tools" unless I am sure it will allow us to move ahead.  Tool changes are not something we take lightly.  Anyway, I like what I see, I just need to see more.   Thanks

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Aerolink Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Active User Joined: 26 Feb 2014 Status: Offline Points: 45	Post Options Post Reply Quote Aerolink Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 1:30pm
	I am happy to hear progress is being made on your end. Still no date to offer? Is there a published list of the 5000 introductory parts? If not, why? We have a contract stuck in a holding pattern until a few specific parts can be found/built, most notably case 987-03 (112 pin LQFP 20x20x0.65). If I knew this part was on your list of 5000, or coming very shortly (actual date), I would happily move ahead with your tools. Otherwise the search continues. I was unable to successfully create this part using your "lite" version. The moment I enter extent dimensions 22x22 the tool lists 88 pin count and nothing I can find seems to allow me to create the full 112 pin footprint. I concluded that this is either a limitation of the lite version or requires changes to the preference files which are not editable in the lite version. The help/videos seem to focus more on special cases than on daily library tasks. We do not have the luxury of hiring a full time librarian, so parts are a real time sink for us. I am reluctant to make "yet another investment in new tools" unless I am sure it will allow us to move ahead. Tool changes are not something we take lightly. Anyway, I like what I see, I just need to see more. Thanks



Nick B Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 02 Jan 2012 Status: Offline Points: 1908	Post Options Post Reply Quote Nick B Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 1:48pm
	We're working feverishly to get it released ASAP. I'm directly involved in this myself and am seeing the final issues being resolved. I can see POD going live in the next day or two at most. The list of 5,000 parts is in a PDF file that gets installed with the Library Expert - look in the default program for a PDF file called "Footprint_Expert_Customer_Library_Content" The default folder is "C:\Program Files (x86)\PCB Libraries\Library Expert 2013" Jeff will respond to the limitation issue momentarily.
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Jeff.M Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 May 2012 Location: San Diego Status: Offline Points: 477	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jeff.M Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 2:02pm
	Nothing limits the pin count. To get 112 pins you must enter the number of pins on the X and Y sides not the dimensions of the X & Y sides. For the part you're trying to build I suspect that value is 28 x 28.
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IanOnBass Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Advanced User Joined: 15 Mar 2012 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 99	Post Options Post Reply Quote IanOnBass Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 2:15pm
	This part can be built very easily (when you use the correct number of pins/side, per Jeff's post) - I built it in about a minute. I would highly recommend that you bite the bullet and purchase the tool - you won't be disappointed (and it will save you hours of effort). Ian

Aerolink Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Active User Joined: 26 Feb 2014 Status: Offline Points: 45	Post Options Post Reply Quote Aerolink Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 2:49pm
	Nick, Jeff, Ian, thanks to all of you. Yes I see now that I entered dimensions instead of pins,,, gazing waaay too long at datasheets I guess. And yes, I took the leap and purchased the tool. However, while waiting for my key to arrive, I tried installing the evaluation license and ran into a "Sentinel driver incompatibility with Windows 8.1 AMD x64." The first attempt reported the incompatible driver. Subsequent attempts fail with the following:

Aerolink Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Active User Joined: 26 Feb 2014 Status: Offline Points: 45	Post Options Post Reply Quote Aerolink Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 2:55pm
	Looking at the DOS window, the bat file is looking in a folder \FPX 2013\HASP. My installation created \Library Expert 2013\HASP thus the file not found error. I can try editing the bat file I suppose. Not sure what to do about the driver incompatibility. The error dialog had a button to check online, but clicking it did nothing obvious. Ah the woes of setup...

Nick B Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 02 Jan 2012 Status: Offline Points: 1908	Post Options Post Reply Quote Nick B Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 3:02pm
	Thanks for purchasing, I will contact you offline at the number you provided. Nick
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Aerolink Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Active User Joined: 26 Feb 2014 Status: Offline Points: 45	Post Options Post Reply Quote Aerolink Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 3:18pm
	No luck. I'll wait for the real license.

Nick B Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 02 Jan 2012 Status: Offline Points: 1908	Post Options Post Reply Quote Nick B Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 3:23pm
	I left a message. Pls call back or let's connect once you get the key and I'll make sure it's set up and working for you.
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Nick B Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 02 Jan 2012 Status: Offline Points: 1908	Post Options Post Reply Quote Nick B Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 4:54pm
	Sneak peek of www.PCBLibraries.com/POD; it will be integrated with the forum, and we're thinking of rewarding the most active users in some way as well.