Error with Footprint Designer and OrCAD PCB

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   When generating an Ethernet connector for OrCAD PCB V16.6 using "FP Designer" (FD) the pads are wrong. They look OK in "Footprint Designer" but there is an error when running the .bat file and the resuling footprint are without holes.
I have tried this both with OrCAD V16.3 and OrCAD V16.6 with the same result.

The error message from the padstack editor is:
---
PADSTACK
ERRORS and WARNINGS:

DEFAULT
INTERNAL: No pads are defined. 

 When loaded into a design, no internal pads
will be added

 for unmatched padstack layers or when
additional internal

 connection layers are added to the design.

Drill hole
size is equal or larger than smallest pad size.

Pad will be drilled away.

---

The large mechanical hole are incorrect in the resulting footprint and all holes are missing drill information etc. 

Attached are screenshot of the error message, FP designer window with the footprint, and the resulting footprint in Orcad PCB designer 16.3. Attached are also the exported footprint to be run with orcad 16.6.

uploads/3458/RB1_125BAG1AN.zip

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Lekselius Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List New User Joined: 10 Apr 2013 Location: Sverige Status: Offline Points: 21	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lekselius Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Topic: Error with Footprint Designer and OrCAD PCB Posted: 04 Jun 2013 at 6:58am
	When generating an Ethernet connector for OrCAD PCB V16.6 using "FP Designer" (FD) the pads are wrong. They look OK in "Footprint Designer" but there is an error when running the .bat file and the resuling footprint are without holes. I have tried this both with OrCAD V16.3 and OrCAD V16.6 with the same result. The error message from the padstack editor is: --- PADSTACK ERRORS and WARNINGS: DEFAULT INTERNAL: No pads are defined. When loaded into a design, no internal pads will be added for unmatched padstack layers or when additional internal connection layers are added to the design. Drill hole size is equal or larger than smallest pad size. Pad will be drilled away. --- The large mechanical hole are incorrect in the resulting footprint and all holes are missing drill information etc. Attached are screenshot of the error message, FP designer window with the footprint, and the resulting footprint in Orcad PCB designer 16.3. Attached are also the exported footprint to be run with orcad 16.6. uploads/3458/RB1_125BAG1AN.zip



chrisa_pcb Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 29 Jul 2012 Location: San Diego Status: Offline Points: 772	Post Options Post Reply Quote chrisa_pcb Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jun 2013 at 3:08pm
	Hi, What version of our tool are you currently using?

Lekselius Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List New User Joined: 10 Apr 2013 Location: Sverige Status: Offline Points: 21	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lekselius Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Jun 2013 at 11:23pm
	I'm running PCB Library Expert version 2013.02

Tom H Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 05 Jan 2012 Location: San Diego, CA Status: Offline Points: 5747	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tom H Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jun 2013 at 7:03am
	Did you watch this Footprint Designer training video? http://www.pcblibraries.com/products/fpx/userguide/default.asp?ch=104 There are several ways to control the through-hole padstacks and I would download the "Proportional Padstack Chart" and the "IPC Reference Calculator" here and get it past engineering, management and manufacturing - http://www.pcblibraries.com/forum/pcb-library-construction-guidelines_forum30.html

Lekselius Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List New User Joined: 10 Apr 2013 Location: Sverige Status: Offline Points: 21	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lekselius Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 11 Jun 2013 at 10:57pm
	I have watched the video and followed the exact same step as in the tutorial, creating an identical footprint but I get the same error when importing the footprint as I got previously. This is the footprint in package designer: Error when running the batch file: Resulting footprint in Orcad: And the files to create the Orcad footprint created by FP designer: Tutorial_1234N.zip

BennsPCB Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Advanced User Joined: 30 Jan 2013 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 98	Post Options Post Reply Quote BennsPCB Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jun 2013 at 7:27am
	Have you turned on "Setup/Design Parameters.../Display non-plated holes". Otherwise you only see the pad, which will be drilled away. Just my 2 cents, ...

d_nilsson Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List New User Joined: 22 Jul 2013 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 12	Post Options Post Reply Quote d_nilsson Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jul 2013 at 4:55pm
	Hi, Was this issue ever resolved? I'm running into the same problem, using FP Designer in version 2013.08. If I open up the sample part AMPH_10-507143-85E in Sample Data - FP Designer.fpx and try to just build it (no changes) for Orcad PCB 16.6 the padstack definition for the NPTHs (keying holes using padstack c100hn295k395_395) is invalid. Cadence padstack editor will spit out during processing of the batch file: PADSTACK ERRORS and WARNINGS: Drill hole size is equal or larger than smallest pad size. Pad will be drilled away. I think this is since what FP Designer is telling Cadence to do is to add 1mm pads on all layers without thermal relief or anti-pad and then drill with a 2.95mm drill, Cadence doesn't like that definition of a NPTH. Is this a known bug? Any workarounds? According to padstack designer in FP Designer there should be a 3.95mm antipad, but that antipad seems to be set to "null" in Cadence when instead it maybe should have been the regular pad that should have been set to "null". Thanks Daniel

Tom H Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 05 Jan 2012 Location: San Diego, CA Status: Offline Points: 5747	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tom H Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jul 2013 at 5:41pm
	The CAD interface programmer (Chris) is on vacation and will be back next week.
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d_nilsson Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List New User Joined: 22 Jul 2013 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 12	Post Options Post Reply Quote d_nilsson Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jul 2013 at 4:12am
	Ok, I will manually modify the padstack definition in Orcad PCB Designer then until Chris is back.

chrisa_pcb Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 29 Jul 2012 Location: San Diego Status: Offline Points: 772	Post Options Post Reply Quote chrisa_pcb Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Aug 2013 at 12:44pm
	I'll be looking at fixing this issue shortly, but it probably won't make it into the tool until the next update in a couple of weeks.