PCB Libraries Forum Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > General > General Discussion
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Square pads standard?
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Square pads standard?
 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
BertX View Drop Down
New User
New User


Joined: 18 Aug 2022
Status: Offline
Points: 3 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BertX Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Square pads standard?
    Posted: 18 Aug 2022 at 1:40am
I have been looking for this for a while now. 

Opinions seem to be divided on this. 

But does the IPC say anything on the use of square pads? 

I was always taught at school it denotes the positive lead or pin 1. 

So that would mean the anode of a diode or capacitor, but it seems most use it to indicate the cathode. 

So is there a standard for this?
Back to Top
Back to Top
Tom H View Drop Down
Admin Group
Admin Group
Avatar

Joined: 05 Jan 2012
Location: San Diego, CA
Status: Offline
Points: 5719 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tom H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Aug 2022 at 8:18am
IPC has no guidelines for using Square Pad Shape to indicate Pin 1 for through-hole footprints. 

It started back in the 1970's with Bishop Graphic decals for DIP14's for hand taping and just migrated into CAD in the 1980's. 50 years ago silkscreen was rare so we used copper shapes to indicate Pin 1.
 
It's a defacto standard that is totally up to the end user to define how they want to indicate the location of Pin 1. 
Stay connected - follow us! X - LinkedIn
Back to Top
BertX View Drop Down
New User
New User


Joined: 18 Aug 2022
Status: Offline
Points: 3 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BertX Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Aug 2022 at 10:24am
Thank you. If I may ask, does the standard say how to mark anodes/cathodes or is this also up to the user?
Back to Top
Tom H View Drop Down
Admin Group
Admin Group
Avatar

Joined: 05 Jan 2012
Location: San Diego, CA
Status: Offline
Points: 5719 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tom H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Aug 2022 at 11:04am
Anode/Cathode polarity markings are defined by each PCB designer in cooperation with their assembly shops recommendations. 

Assembly shops should have their own DFA (Design for Assembly) handbook, but it may not contain polarity marking guidelines. 

There are some recommendations coming from IPC-7352 which should be released by the end of the year. 
Stay connected - follow us! X - LinkedIn
Back to Top
feynman View Drop Down
Active User
Active User


Joined: 06 Feb 2020
Status: Offline
Points: 12 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote feynman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Aug 2022 at 12:19pm
Diodes are a real pain in the ass for assemblers. Diode orientation should be made ridiculously clear:
- Draw a diode symbol or a triangle on the silkscreen (if possible).
- Draw a diode symbol on your assembly drawing.
- Name the pins "A" and "C" instead of "+", "-", "1" or "2".

If something can be remotely considered "industry standard" with diodes than it's the cathode being the "special" pin that is marked one way or the other.
Back to Top
Tom H View Drop Down
Admin Group
Admin Group
Avatar

Joined: 05 Jan 2012
Location: San Diego, CA
Status: Offline
Points: 5719 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tom H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Aug 2022 at 12:26pm
For Diodes, the package polarity is normally on the Cathode. 

For LEDs, the package polarity is normally on the Anode. 

Footprint Expert allows the user to manually insert polarity markings that stay save in the FPX library. 

Here are some of the shapes and the user defines the size, location, shape, rotation and layer. 


 
Stay connected - follow us! X - LinkedIn
Back to Top
mhike08 View Drop Down
New User
New User


Joined: 17 Nov 2021
Status: Offline
Points: 5 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mhike08 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 2022 at 6:04pm
In relation to the topic, I would like to ask if there is a disadvantages of using square pad in terms of manufacturing and solderability? 

And also for clearance and creepage? 

Thanks for the response.

Back to Top
williamswelsh75 View Drop Down
New User
New User


Joined: 19 May 2023
Status: Offline
Points: 1 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote williamswelsh75 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2023 at 11:43pm
I completely agree that square pads should be the standard.

They provide a much more comfortable and ergonomic experience for users than standard round pads.

Plus, they are much more durable and last longer since there are no exposed wires.

All in all, I think square pads should be the go-to option for most people.

Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.233 seconds.