PCB Libraries Forum Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > General > General Discussion
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Designators
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Designators

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
JJonas View Drop Down
Advanced User
Advanced User


Joined: 21 Apr 2014
Status: Offline
Points: 113
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JJonas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Designators
    Posted: 28 Mar 2015 at 2:27pm
Could anyone please specify what are the correct designators for the following parts?



Some would use J? for all those parts, because they are the least-movable parts of a connector. However, some use, for example, JP? for [1], X? for [2], P? for [3], XP? for [5] and TB? for [7].
Back to Top
Back to Top
Tom H View Drop Down
Admin Group
Admin Group
Avatar

Joined: 05 Jan 2012
Location: San Diego, CA
Status: Offline
Points: 5716
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tom H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Mar 2015 at 3:10pm
J = Jack (Female)
P = Plug (Male)
 
Standard Reference Designators (download) - http://www.pcblibraries.com/forum/reference-designators_topic728.html 
Stay connected - follow us! X - LinkedIn
Back to Top
JJonas View Drop Down
Advanced User
Advanced User


Joined: 21 Apr 2014
Status: Offline
Points: 113
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JJonas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Mar 2015 at 3:27pm
Tom, I know that, but it does not make thing very clear to me.
Also,
X = Socket
and hence
XP - Female socket

Tom, so you would use J? for [1], [2] and [8] and P? for all the rest? You would not use X? designator?

I have checked PCB designs from well know companies as TI and Analog, I have also checked provided libraries by connector manufacturers and they all were using different designators for the same type of components. If such big players cannot get it right it is likely not that obvious.
Back to Top
Tom H View Drop Down
Admin Group
Admin Group
Avatar

Joined: 05 Jan 2012
Location: San Diego, CA
Status: Offline
Points: 5716
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tom H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Mar 2015 at 3:31pm
You are correct.
 
J = 1, 2 & 8
 
P = all the rest
 
X = Socket and 99.9% of all sockets are female. I don't know of any socket plugs but there might be one, so I didn't put 100%.
 
Stay connected - follow us! X - LinkedIn
Back to Top
JJonas View Drop Down
Advanced User
Advanced User


Joined: 21 Apr 2014
Status: Offline
Points: 113
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JJonas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Mar 2015 at 3:58pm
Ok, thank you. Can you please provide any examples (part numbers) where you would use X? designator?

For example, Wago and Phoenix is using X? designator for all their terminal blocks. So they are doing it wrong then...
Back to Top
Tom H View Drop Down
Admin Group
Admin Group
Avatar

Joined: 05 Jan 2012
Location: San Diego, CA
Status: Offline
Points: 5716
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tom H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Mar 2015 at 6:15pm
I perfect example of the ref des "X" is a DIP Socket
Stay connected - follow us! X - LinkedIn
Back to Top
JJonas View Drop Down
Advanced User
Advanced User


Joined: 21 Apr 2014
Status: Offline
Points: 113
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JJonas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 4:28am
What about this connector, would you suggest using J? or P? designator?
 

 
Also, I took a look at what designators are Agilent and Keithley using in their hi-end products. As you can see, they avoid P? and use J? instead.
 
Back to Top
Tom H View Drop Down
Admin Group
Admin Group
Avatar

Joined: 05 Jan 2012
Location: San Diego, CA
Status: Offline
Points: 5716
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tom H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 4:41am
In the case where the connector has a dual sex, J is used more often.
 
I've seen EE engineers use J for every connector whether it's Male or Female.
 
J is far more popular than P.
 
Stay connected - follow us! X - LinkedIn
Back to Top
Matthew Lamkin View Drop Down
Advanced User
Advanced User


Joined: 02 Oct 2012
Status: Offline
Points: 284
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Matthew Lamkin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2015 at 3:49pm
If its got pins sticking out its a plug so 1 & 2 are P##\PL##.
The rest are sockets S##\SK## (with possibly the exception of #6) as something is inserted into the pins.

IMO calling things a "jack" is misguided, its historical and does not match the plug.
You have a plug and a socket that the plug - plugs into.
Jack is a little lad that went up a hill with his girlfriend Jill. :)

That multi connector is awkward so I'd go off what the majority is - socket.

Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.219 seconds.